You know, according to The Chicago Tribune, I'm trying to do a lot of research on this today. I haven't gotten a 100 percent definitive answer.

But they report he's been an active member of Chicago's Trinity Unity Church of Christ for the last 20 years. And I went and I saw a web site, and if it's the same Trinity United, they have a list of their views on there which says, you know, commitment to God, commitment to the black community, commitment to the black family, adherence to the black work ethic.

You know, it seems to be, you know, about--it seems divisive.
Isaac Chotiner